Travel reviews by Mr C from Leicestershire
Review Distribution
Total number of trips
1
Countries visited
1
Lodges stayed in
4
Excursions taken
0
Tanzania
Tanzania between 22 Sep 2007 and 2 Oct 2007
"A truly memorable experience"
Arranged By Claire Scott
Arusha Coffee Lodge
"Overnight stops"
1 night
Arrived
23 Sep 2007
Excellent
Experience Report
Overall Rating:
Excellent
Location
Excellent
Service
Excellent
Rooms
Excellent
Food
Excellent
Chada Camp
"Chada Camp"
3 nights
Arrived
24 Sep 2007
"By chance we were the only guests here for the three days. The whole experience was wonderful with expert guides and great staff and managers. This was the most memorable experiance of our lives.
At Katavi, by some fluke of the booking system, we found ourselves the only people staying there for the three days. At first we thought this might be a problem but in fact it was a total privilege. We were treated to the undivided assistance of Silvanus Mbise who proved to be a truly wonderful guide and more than that, companion for our time at the camp. The other staff and Richard and Anna, as the camp managers, were also without fault. We were made to feel really welcome the whole time we were there despite the fact that it was Richard's last three days in charge and he undoubtedly had other things to be arranged.
The tented accommodation was better than we had expected and one got used to the fact that water was in short supply here and having a shower whilst being watched by a monkey was a new experience!
We have to mention the food: how your chef managed to produce food that would be appreciated in a good restaurant anywhere in the middle of Katavi was inexplicable.
The range and extent of the wildlife that we were shown was awe inspiring and I will never forget Silvanus's tracking of a leopard from a kill-site to the animal lying on a tree branch just above our heads. He managed to get the Landcruiser into areas that I don't think I could have got a bicycle!
All-in-all Katavi was an absolutely unforgettable superb experience due, in no small part, to your great staff and managers."
At Katavi, by some fluke of the booking system, we found ourselves the only people staying there for the three days. At first we thought this might be a problem but in fact it was a total privilege. We were treated to the undivided assistance of Silvanus Mbise who proved to be a truly wonderful guide and more than that, companion for our time at the camp. The other staff and Richard and Anna, as the camp managers, were also without fault. We were made to feel really welcome the whole time we were there despite the fact that it was Richard's last three days in charge and he undoubtedly had other things to be arranged.
The tented accommodation was better than we had expected and one got used to the fact that water was in short supply here and having a shower whilst being watched by a monkey was a new experience!
We have to mention the food: how your chef managed to produce food that would be appreciated in a good restaurant anywhere in the middle of Katavi was inexplicable.
The range and extent of the wildlife that we were shown was awe inspiring and I will never forget Silvanus's tracking of a leopard from a kill-site to the animal lying on a tree branch just above our heads. He managed to get the Landcruiser into areas that I don't think I could have got a bicycle!
All-in-all Katavi was an absolutely unforgettable superb experience due, in no small part, to your great staff and managers."
Excellent
Experience Report
Overall Rating:
Excellent
Location
Excellent
Service
Excellent
Activities
Excellent
Rooms
Excellent
Food
Excellent
Facilities
Excellent
Greystoke Mahale
"Mahale Camp"
4 nights
Arrived
27 Sep 2007
"At Mahale we also had a great experience in an area in complete contrast to Katavi, which was after all our intent and your company's intent in linking these two sites for this trip. Again the camp staff, managers and guides were excellent and once again the chef managed marvels (how do they do it?).
The experience of walking through the forest/jungle areas was new to us as we had only been in Katavi-like areas before. On two of the three walks we managed to get to see the chimps at relatively low levels and in areas where we could see them easily. The sight of the alpha male charging past waiving a stick to emphasise his position was a humbling experience. I was just glad he was ignoring us!
I do however have to make a few negative comments. I am only doing this because I fear that you might be hearing from others who were in our group and their comments might be more negative.
Could I first say that our group may have been atypical in that, apart from two late twenty year olds, who had recently climbed Kilimanjaro, we were all 60+ years old. Now being 60+ is not a barrier in itself and those of us who were used to mountain walking were equipped with suitable walking boots/sticks etc. and were reasonably fit: the same could not be said for some of the others.
There were people who had never done any serious walking and were wearing footwear that was woefully inadequate and trousers that did not cover their legs. This led to them slipping and falling on the dry sandy steep paths. The good news was nobody was seriously injured, just a few cuts and bruises.
The first day trekking to find the Chimps was one of those days when the chimps started off high up and just carried on up. This led to us being out on an 8 hour walk through some very rough terrain, indeed one member of the group was out for 10 hours, having to be escorted back at a very slow pace by one of the guides. All members of the group, including the twenty year olds, were pretty well exhausted when we returned but some of them were exhausted to the point where they were a danger to themselves. Those of us who have some experience of distance walking, including the Kilimanjaro pair, also felt that for a walk of that distance and in the humid conditions, the water supply was inadequate and perhaps food was required.
I am aware that nobody can predict where the chimps will move after the start of the walk but I feel that the cause of the problem is the fact that it is not made as clear as perhaps it could be, by both the travel companies booking your camps and indeed in some of your Internet pages, just how tough some of the walks can be.
I appreciate that the first walk may have been the only chance we had to see the chimps and that therefore the camp managers and the guides were determined to try to get us to them. But perhaps this determination may blind them to the capabilities of some guests. However I feel that some greater assessment of the abilities of some guests would help avoid the situation we found ourselves in, with some of us having to drop back to help people who were really struggling on the descent.
That said, we managed to view the chimps on each of the three days we went out looking, and indeed on the second and third days the chimps were found within a couple of hours walk. There is therefore no criticism of the ability of the guides and trackers in finding the chimp groups.
Overall therefore I felt that more advice should be given to potential guests as to exactly what sort of walking can be involved. It was quite apparent that others in the party had no idea of the potential extent or difficulty of the walks. I had booked via Expert Africa in the UK and had specifically asked about the possible severity of the walking and even they had I feel somewhat understated the situation. I feel that if people turn up at the camps who are quite clearly not well equipped, either fitness wise or footware/clothing wise, that it should be made very clear that if the chimps are some distance from the camp that a severe walk may be involved and then it would be up to them whether they went or not.
The main sufferers in our group were four American ladies who all seemed to be planning to write to complain so I felt that I should give my view as perhaps a balance. The other camps they had visited were ones where they were transported in jeeps etc. and I got the impression that they did not really take in the fact that this camp was very different.
I must however stress that this problem on one day did not spoil the holiday and we had a really great time at both Katavi and Mahale. Both the camps were superbly run and your staff excellent both at the camps and during transits. We would be very happy to recommend this trip to anyone (who could do the walking)."
The experience of walking through the forest/jungle areas was new to us as we had only been in Katavi-like areas before. On two of the three walks we managed to get to see the chimps at relatively low levels and in areas where we could see them easily. The sight of the alpha male charging past waiving a stick to emphasise his position was a humbling experience. I was just glad he was ignoring us!
I do however have to make a few negative comments. I am only doing this because I fear that you might be hearing from others who were in our group and their comments might be more negative.
Could I first say that our group may have been atypical in that, apart from two late twenty year olds, who had recently climbed Kilimanjaro, we were all 60+ years old. Now being 60+ is not a barrier in itself and those of us who were used to mountain walking were equipped with suitable walking boots/sticks etc. and were reasonably fit: the same could not be said for some of the others.
There were people who had never done any serious walking and were wearing footwear that was woefully inadequate and trousers that did not cover their legs. This led to them slipping and falling on the dry sandy steep paths. The good news was nobody was seriously injured, just a few cuts and bruises.
The first day trekking to find the Chimps was one of those days when the chimps started off high up and just carried on up. This led to us being out on an 8 hour walk through some very rough terrain, indeed one member of the group was out for 10 hours, having to be escorted back at a very slow pace by one of the guides. All members of the group, including the twenty year olds, were pretty well exhausted when we returned but some of them were exhausted to the point where they were a danger to themselves. Those of us who have some experience of distance walking, including the Kilimanjaro pair, also felt that for a walk of that distance and in the humid conditions, the water supply was inadequate and perhaps food was required.
I am aware that nobody can predict where the chimps will move after the start of the walk but I feel that the cause of the problem is the fact that it is not made as clear as perhaps it could be, by both the travel companies booking your camps and indeed in some of your Internet pages, just how tough some of the walks can be.
I appreciate that the first walk may have been the only chance we had to see the chimps and that therefore the camp managers and the guides were determined to try to get us to them. But perhaps this determination may blind them to the capabilities of some guests. However I feel that some greater assessment of the abilities of some guests would help avoid the situation we found ourselves in, with some of us having to drop back to help people who were really struggling on the descent.
That said, we managed to view the chimps on each of the three days we went out looking, and indeed on the second and third days the chimps were found within a couple of hours walk. There is therefore no criticism of the ability of the guides and trackers in finding the chimp groups.
Overall therefore I felt that more advice should be given to potential guests as to exactly what sort of walking can be involved. It was quite apparent that others in the party had no idea of the potential extent or difficulty of the walks. I had booked via Expert Africa in the UK and had specifically asked about the possible severity of the walking and even they had I feel somewhat understated the situation. I feel that if people turn up at the camps who are quite clearly not well equipped, either fitness wise or footware/clothing wise, that it should be made very clear that if the chimps are some distance from the camp that a severe walk may be involved and then it would be up to them whether they went or not.
The main sufferers in our group were four American ladies who all seemed to be planning to write to complain so I felt that I should give my view as perhaps a balance. The other camps they had visited were ones where they were transported in jeeps etc. and I got the impression that they did not really take in the fact that this camp was very different.
I must however stress that this problem on one day did not spoil the holiday and we had a really great time at both Katavi and Mahale. Both the camps were superbly run and your staff excellent both at the camps and during transits. We would be very happy to recommend this trip to anyone (who could do the walking)."
Good
Experience Report
Overall Rating:
Good
Location
Excellent
Service
Excellent
Activities
Good
Rooms
Excellent
Food
Excellent
Facilities
Excellent
Feedback response
There are some really valuable lessons highlighted here.
These travellers were fortunate enough to have a couple of chimp sightings at low level during their stay, which each involved a couple of hours walking. In our experience, these are typical of the walks at Greystoke. However, clearly one day they did have a very long walk which lasted about 8 hours.
Although our two travellers were keen walkers, others at the camp (who had not booked with Expert Africa) didn’t have suitable footwear and clearly weren’t prepared for the amount of walking involved here.
Greystoke’s owners commented that their guides do brief each group before these walks, advising them of how far the chimps are hence how long each walk is likely to take. They always encourage the guests to carry as much water as they can, and if you request it, food can be arranged. However, not all guests take up these offers.
( There is also always the option for guests to stop, and even return to camp at any stage, if they find a particular day’s walk too tough. )
The lesson here is clear: although 8 hours is long by Greystoke’s normal standards, these chimps are wild, they go where they like, and this kind of walk will be needed at some times of the year to get sightings of the chimps. So be prepared when you book into Greystoke, and head off walking!
These travellers were fortunate enough to have a couple of chimp sightings at low level during their stay, which each involved a couple of hours walking. In our experience, these are typical of the walks at Greystoke. However, clearly one day they did have a very long walk which lasted about 8 hours.
Although our two travellers were keen walkers, others at the camp (who had not booked with Expert Africa) didn’t have suitable footwear and clearly weren’t prepared for the amount of walking involved here.
Greystoke’s owners commented that their guides do brief each group before these walks, advising them of how far the chimps are hence how long each walk is likely to take. They always encourage the guests to carry as much water as they can, and if you request it, food can be arranged. However, not all guests take up these offers.
( There is also always the option for guests to stop, and even return to camp at any stage, if they find a particular day’s walk too tough. )
The lesson here is clear: although 8 hours is long by Greystoke’s normal standards, these chimps are wild, they go where they like, and this kind of walk will be needed at some times of the year to get sightings of the chimps. So be prepared when you book into Greystoke, and head off walking!
Arusha Coffee Lodge
"Arusha Part 2"
1 night
Arrived
1 Oct 2007
"Comments as before. [These travellers stopped here for a night at the start and end of their visit to Western Tanzania.]"
Excellent
Experience Report
Overall Rating:
Excellent
Location
Excellent
Service
Excellent
Rooms
Excellent
Food
Excellent
Rooms excellent - food excellent - service excellent"